Louis Gayet, Le grand schisme d'Occident Les Origines volume 1 (Paris-Florence-Berlin 1889), "Pièces justificatives", pp. 34-35:

Frater Henricus de Buda, de regno Ungariae, de ordine heremitarum, et penitentiarius papae Urbani juratus deposuit:

1. Quod sicebat indubitabiliter, quod post mortem D. Gregorii papae, romani tenuerunt consilia, qualiter expediebat ipsis habere papam de natione italie, et de hoc fuit Romae publica vox et fama. Et fecerunt etiam romani, quod venient hic montanarii et forestarii de comitatu, ad custodiendum cardinales. Item, quod tempore quo cardinales erant in conclavi, clamabant romani: "Romanum volumus vel ad minus italicum."

2. Item, dixit quod unus de cardinalibus confessus fuit isti fratri statim post electionem elapsis paucis diebus. Et petiit se absolvi ex plenaria remissione. Et cum dixisset iste frater, quod [35] absolvebat eum auctoritate papae Urbani, ille cardinalis dixit: quod non diceret sic, sed quod absolvebat eum auctoritate ecclesiae. Et cum iste replicaret: quod sequenti die haberet communicare de manibus ejus, respondit quod reciperet Eucharistiam tanquam ab archiepiscopo de Baro. Interrogatus quis esset iste cardinalis, dixit post multa verba, quod erat cardinalis de Verhenio.

3. Item, addidit quod, cum esset in Anagnia, dixerunt isti etsti cardinales de Britania [Hugues de Montelais], Florentinus [Pietro Corsini], et de Vernio [Pierre de Vergne] et [Pedro] de Luna, quod diceret pape Urbano, ex parte istorum cardinalium, quod ipsi starent pro honore suo, et irent ad eum, quum mandaret, et iste dixit sibi verba predicta, et cum rediret ad eos de mandato pape, noluerunt aliquid sibi respondere in illa materia.

4. Interrogatus si comes Arigo, qui venit hic de partibus ALemanie, si est embaxiator regis Ungarie, dixit iste quod non credit, quia est maxima distantia a partibus Ungarie usque ad Alemaniam unde erat oriundus, et morabatur iste comes. Origo ejus districtus erat prope Sanxoniam, et audivit quod veniebat hiis super passagio ad Jerusalem.

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The witness testifies that:

• He knew without doubt that after the death of Pope Gregory the Romans held meetings as to how it could be accomplished for them to have a pope of the Italian nation and that this was common knowledge and talk in Rome.
• He knew that the Romans also arranged for people from the mountains and from the forests of the County to come to keep custody of the Cardinals.
• He knew likewise that at the time when the Cardinals were in conclave, the Romans were shouting, "Give us a Roman, or at least an Italian."
• He said that he heard the confession of one of the Cardinals immediately after the election, after the passing of only a few days [It was Holy Week], and the Cardinal sought to be granted a plenary absolution. When the Friar said that he was absolving him under the authority of Pope Urban, the Cardinal said that he should not say that, but that he was absolving him under the authority of the Church. And when the Friar replied that on the following day he would have to take communion from the Pope's hands, the Cardinal replied that he was receiving communion as it were from the Archbishop of Bari. Asked who this cardinal was, after much talk he said that he was the Cardinal de Vernhio [Pierre de Vergne].
• He said that, while he was at Anagni, Cardinal de Britania [Hugues de Montelais], the Florentine Cardinal [Pietro Corsini], Cardinal de Vernhio, and Cardinal de Luna told him to talk to Pope Urban on their behalf, that they stood up for his honor. They went to the Pope when he summoned them, and the Friar said what he had been told to say. And when he came back from the papal summons, they did not want to say anything to him in reply on those topics.
• Asked if Count Arigo [Heinrich], who came here from Germany, was the ambassador of the King of Hungary, the Friar said that he did not believe so, because it is a very great distance from Hungary to the part of Germany that Heinrich was from, the area of Saxony, and that he had heard that he was coming here on his pilgrimage to Jersualem.

 

 

November 12, 2013 6:17 PM

John Paul Adams, CSUN
john.p.adams@csun.edu