The log from Vernal Equinox
Thu Feb 24 12:51:32 2005 PST
Logging is turned on by Vandiver.
loya420 says, "computers are cool but we certainly dont need them to survive"
VReyes says, "OK SO WHAT U GUYS THINK ABOUT THE READING"
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Barahona holds up a big sign: | spender |
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loya420 says, "actually let me take back what i said because i live in the usa"
Heroic_Zero says, "yeah, Spender made a good point on that Children part"
loya420 says, "maybe if i lived in the aboriginal australian area then i wouldn't need a computer to survive"
Barahona says, "i personally love my comp"
Barahona says, "im addicted toit"
Barahona says, "*to it"
loya420 says, "i have a hole in my shoe"
Heroic_Zero says, "Im a consumer whore"
loya420 says, "i hate shopping"
Barahona says, "lol"
CLewis says, "having a computer is not on everones top priority list we have bigger things to worry about"
loya420 says, "let me quote spender"
Heroic_Zero says, "that, and I need my comp nowadays, scince its seems to be the only thing entertaining me these days"
Barahona says, "yea it is a great source of entertainment"
loya420 says, "yeah i agree that we have "bigger" things to do"
Heroic_Zero says, "TV sucks today, but watching 2 dumbasses fall on a table from a roof kicks ass"
Barahona says, "tv is boring"
Barahona says, "well for the most part"
Heroic_Zero says, "that gotten from the internet"
loya420 says, "ok here is a quote... "the indigenous people in australia are a case in point" page 267"
Barahona says, "a case point of what really, is the question"
Heroic_Zero says, "also, look at paragraph 9"
Heroic_Zero says, "thats the good point I Spender made"
Barahona says, "i suppose so"
Vandiver exclaims, "we can live with out them, but i for one don't want to!"
Barahona says, "yea i suppose we could live without them, but i dont ever wanna do so again"
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| Reinactment: Guy:Hey little hungry |
Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | kid, you want a computer? Kid:I |
| need food.... Guy:Well **** you! |
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Barahona says, "ive only had my own comp fro 3 years"
loya420 says, "she also mentions...."20% aboriginal people are suffering of malnutrition, have no sanitaion, the recommendation that everyone should have a computer would appear as more a sign of contempt than a social justice policy""
Barahona says, "*for"
CLewis says, "at least she realizes computers are not a big priority for those who are poor instead of dwelling on the fact that they dont have them i doubt if they really care"
Heroic_Zero says, "look at paragraph 7 also"
loya420 says, "read heroic's sign"
loya420 asks, "what page is para 7 in?"
Barahona says, "267"
Heroic_Zero says, "267"
loya420 says, "what about that paragraph"
loya420 says, "you wanna discuss about it"
loya420 says, "im all ears"
Vandiver says, "if you don't know what your missing then you don't miss it"
CLewis says, "true"
VReyes asks, "WHAT?"
Barahona says, "thats a good point"
Heroic_Zero says, "its just that he makes another good point there"
VReyes asks, "WHAT POINT ?"
loya420 asks, "yeah, that as we advance, the more we are hurting them no?"
VReyes says, "OH"
Barahona asks, "but i mean think about it, why shouldnt we advance?"
loya420 asks, "the more they fall behind no?"
VReyes says, "IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER HOW MUCH WE ADVANCE IF OTHERS ARE STUCK IN THE SAME PLACE"
loya420 says, "we are advancing and that sucks for them"
CLewis says, "i think we as a country have our priorities wrong"
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| Paragraph 12: Some governments dont |
Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | want people to have access to all |
| this information |
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Barahona says, "well we have certain priorities wrong, not all of them tho"
loya420 says, "i havent been brainwashed"
Barahona says, "thats some governments"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | Like China |
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loya420 says, "actually, i owe hundreds to credit card providers...damn them"
Barahona says, "well they are communists"
Thu Feb 24 13:01:33 2005 PST
Barahona says, "at least their government is"
loya420 says, "ok just think about the calendar"
loya420 says, "look at how many holidays we have"
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| I shall only speak in signs in an |
Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | attempt to attention whore this |
| disscussion, and to point out |
| critical areas from this article |
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Barahona asks, "what do our holidays have to do with it?"
loya420 says, "that we spend "
CLewis says, "most of our priorities are wrong like when we spend millions of dollars on some stupid mars rover while people in our country are homeless and starving"
loya420 says, "for valentines day, didnt you buy your loved one something"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | how exactly are holidays brought |
| into this? |
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loya420 says, "they are just trying to snatch our money"
Barahona says, "why shouldnt we have our explorations in space? i think its for the betterment of things"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | wtf? |
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Barahona says, "valentines is an over-commercialized holiday"
loya420 says, "my point is that we think that we have to spend and spend in order to survive when actually this is not the case]"
VReyes says, "ok i think were getting off topic that or im lost"
CLewis says, "betterment of what"
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| thats true, but what exactly does |
Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | valentines day have to do with |
| Spender's article? |
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Vandiver says, "so we should give our hard earnd money to the lazy and the stupid who wont get off their but to find a job"
Barahona says, "i dunno, someone mentioned holidays"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | stay on topic people |
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Barahona says, "we are the most materialistic country"
loya420 says, "ok let me talk about spender"
loya420 says, "sorry people"
Vandiver says, "this is in a way still on topic"
loya420 asks, "really how so?"
CLewis says, "okay if the mars rover lands on mars what good would that do anyone on earth"
VReyes says, "ok how about we just move on from that"
Vandiver says, "economics"
loya420 says, "true"
Barahona asks, "what about economics?"
CLewis says, "ok back to spender"
VReyes says, "yeah"
Vandiver says, "the whole thing is about economics"
loya420 says, "i dont understand why we're discussing this online when we are right here in this same room"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | economics are relevant to Spender |
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CLewis says, "true"
Vandiver says, "haves n have nots"
Barahona asks, "yea i get that, but what specifics?"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | he states that most people wont be |
| able to afford comps |
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Barahona says, "thats true"
loya420 says, "not just comps but food"
Barahona says, "i just recently got my own comp because before it was too expensive for my mom to be able to buy me one"
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| and that also, some countries are |
Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | malnourished, and that giving them |
| a comp is like saying **** you to |
| them |
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Barahona says, "heh food is one of the most expensive things out there"
VReyes says, "ok so he was saying that everyone should have a computer but realizes that there are hungry people out there "
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | true, food is expensive |
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loya420 says, "and computers are the last thing on their mind"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | right |
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Barahona says, "right"
VReyes says, "yeah"
CLewis says, "but food is a necessity"
Barahona says, "mhmm"
loya420 says, "how do you do the whole sign thing, i wanna do it also"
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| Spender also states that people |
Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | without computer's will be left |
| behind |
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Barahona says, "you type in bs i believe"
loya420 says, "ok"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | and yet some cant even afford it |
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loya420 says, "bs its almost like a computer for them"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | scroll up to see why Im doing this :) |
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loya420 says, "computers here are an equivalent for food over there"
loya420 says, "thats cool"
Iraheta asks, "so people are being left behind do you agree with that?"
loya420 says, "food is what is keeping them on track"
Barahona says, "computers are too expensive despite the demand for them being so high still"
CLewis says, "i really dont think that people without a computer will care if they are left behind as far as technology"
Vandiver says, "no"
Barahona says, "i think they would"
loya420 says, "and computers here are what is keeping us on track"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | try using a 133MHz comp, you will go |
| mad |
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Vandiver says, "they don't know that they r missing something"
Barahona says, "heh "
loya420 says, "im hungry"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | Im not, I had like 4 PBJ sandwiches |
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Barahona says, "im not either"
loya420 says, "i prefer biting a cheeseburger than to be typing rightnow"
CLewis says, "your silly"
Vandiver says, "we choose to get along with computers"
Barahona says, "haha"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | we chose to use computers |
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loya420 says, "i wanna eat"
Barahona says, "some days i wanna toss my computer out the window cos it pisses me off"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | and to make them a ncessity |
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loya420 says, "food never pisses me off"
Vandiver exclaims, "stop talking about eating!!!"
CLewis says, "we wont die if we dont have a computer"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | youre telling me, My comp keeps |
| overheating |
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Barahona says, "heh i may die of boredom without it"
loya420 says, "yeah when food overheats it tastes bad"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | and thats why I have a PS2 and GBA:SP |
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Barahona asks, "whats with the food talk?"
CLewis says, "then read a book"
Barahona says, "haha and i dont"
Thu Feb 24 13:11:39 2005 PST
Barahona says, "eh books are overrated"
loya420 says, "hey whst is gba:sp"
loya420 says, "books are the bomb"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | Game Boy advance:SP |
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Barahona says, "some books are"
loya420 says, "especially the one by anthony kiedis"
Vandiver says, "go outside, to the gym, u don't need a computer"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | I want to read hitchhiker's guide to |
| the galaxy |
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CLewis says, "really i hate reading i just said that because the teacher will be reading this"
Barahona says, "yea well im a net freak hence the need for a comp"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | same here' |
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VReyes says, "ok"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | cmon, Im talking about GBA for gods |
| sake |
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loya420 says, "spenser mentions that most people in the third world arent even interested in owning one"
Barahona says, "i think we've sorta lost track of things again"
CLewis says, "they probably arent but she shouldnt generalize like that"
loya420 says, "people in the third world are still using sticks to kill animals"
loya420 says, "they are still villages"
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| he also states that even in 1st |
Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | world countries, some people such |
| as the homeless and unemployed, are |
| uninformed |
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Barahona says, "really you dont know what these people think unless you actually go and ask them"
loya420 says, "we are GLOBAL villages"
loya420 says, "that is weird. about the whole homeless thing"
Barahona asks, "what paragraph?"
VReyes says, "obviously we find computers a neccessity but those who dnt even have food dont care about computers which is causing them to fall behind"
CLewis says, "what homeless thing"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | 15 |
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Barahona says, "thanks"
loya420 says, "that homelesss people live in the usa"
Barahona says, "well of course they live everywhere"
Vandiver says, "but what you think is falling behind might not even matter to them"
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| main point:Comps arent necessary for |
Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | everyone, and some people dont want |
| them |
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Vandiver says, "economics"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | whats a good topic using this info |
| though? |
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loya420 says, "how do computer impact or change a wommunities standing as far as technological advance"
loya420 says, "i dont know im just brainstorming...help"
Barahona says, "hmmm...."
VReyes says, "point:comps are important but for those who cant afford it is not. Topic:"
VReyes says, "cant think of anything"
CLewis says, "the main topic is how computer are not readily available to people who lower economic status and the impact that has "
Barahona says, "point: the definition of what is important changes from country to country"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | good topic there |
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Vandiver says, "or lack there of"
CLewis says, "you sure do like those signs"
VReyes says, "..."
loya420 says, "how important are computers to first world counties and how does it impact third worlds"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | agian, scroll up to see why im using |
| them :) |
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Barahona says, "that could be a good topic"
VReyes says, "computers and there impact "
Vandiver says, "it's not the impact it's the diference"
Barahona says, "computers and their advancement"
CLewis says, "why are you using them"
loya420 says, "how can computers tell our economic standing"
Vandiver says, "we think that we impact everything and we don't"
Barahona says, "i think the impact is important"
VReyes says, "ok bye u guys"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | well, g2g |
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Barahona says, "bye"
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Heroic_Zero holds up a big sign: | laterz |
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Heroic_Zero leaves for Four Seasons.
Vandiver says, "that's an american elitest view"
Barahona teleports out.
loya420 says, "where do we go now"
loya420 teleports out.
Iraheta leaves for Four Seasons.
CLewis says, "bye homies"
loya420 has arrived.
VReyes teleports out.
CLewis teleports out.
Vandiver teleports out.
Thu Feb 24 13:21:48 2005 PST
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