The log from Vernal Equinox
Mon Oct 11 10:24:05 2004 PDT
Logging is turned on by somethingunusual.
Vanem has arrived.
Vanem asks, "latin American poets right?"
lacubrious23 says, "hello"
Vanem says, "hey"
somethingunusual says, "hey"
lacubrious23 says, "I don't like this moo thing"
Vanem asks, "why not?"
papertiger has arrived.
somethingunusual says, "its funny 3 out of 4 of us are next to eachother"
lacubrious23 says, "yea, we're kind of in the same area"
Vanem says, "that is true"
Vanem asks, "so did any of you read any of the poetry?"
papertiger says, "hi""
lacubrious23 asks, " so what are we supposed to be doing?"
somethingunusual says, "typing about stuff"
Vanem asks, "i am not quite sure?"
Vanem asks, "what kinda stuff?"
lacubrious23 says, "so i emailed you guys some info about surrealism satuday night"
somethingunusual says, "ya"
papertiger says, " i hate damoo""
lacubrious23 says, "i myself didn"t read all of it but there is this website www>poemhunter>com where you can read other poems by all the authors we"re doing"
Vanem says, "really I don't think I got it but I will check again when I get home"
somethingunusual says, "i think we need to figure out what we are going to talk about in front of the class"
Vanem says, "that might be a good idea"
Vanem says, "I personally like neruda"
somethingunusual asks, "which one is he?"
lacubrious23 asks, "so what are we going to talk about? how should we divide everything up?"
somethingunusual asks, "by poets?"
Vanem says, "Neruda is the one who wrote all the love poetry. And was like a huge political player."
somethingunusual says, "ah\"
papertiger says, "im still confused in reguards to how we r supposed to lay out our research""
Vanem says, "by poets sounds good."
papertiger says, "does anyone know""
Vanem says, "no"
somethingunusual says, "no"
Vanem says, "I don't think anyone knows"
somethingunusual says, "."
lacubrious23 says, "what ithink we should do is pick our author and then take the poems the book gives us and then try to apply the appropriate critical theory"
Vanem says, "oh ok"
papertiger says, "for each"
Vanem says, "what does that mean"
papertiger says, "or for all combined authors"
Mon Oct 11 10:34:10 2004 PDT
Vanem says, "I am so confused"
somethingunusual says, "ya"
lacubrious23 says, "so i said that i would take sor juana and other felame poets and then i"ll apply the feeminist thoery and maybe the marxist theory"
lacubrious23 says, "lets take neruda"
somethingunusual says, "ill take jorges"
lacubrious23 asks, "who is doing neruda?"
somethingunusual says, "dunno"
lacubrious23 says, "we"ll all figure out the critical theories to use together"
Vanem says, "I am doing Neruda"
lacubrious23 says, "ok"
Vanem says, "I am going to try to find his most famous poem Macchu Picchu"
somethingunusual says, "sounds good"
lacubrious23 says, "so look at neruda"s background "
Vanem says, "of course"
lacubrious23 says, "if you want to say how that impacted his word you would use the biological critical thoery"
lacubrious23 says, "if he was impacted by polotics then it might be a good idea to use the sociological thoery"
somethingunusual asks, "are we using differant theories for each poet?"
Vanem asks, "biological or biographical?"
papertiger says, "i'll either do Borges or i'm considering doing a contemperary latin am. poet"
lacubrious23 says, "uhm i think that a lot of them were impacted by the same things"
somethingunusual says, "well we should all decide what we are going to do"
lacubrious23 says, "so it would make sense to use similar if not the same critical theories"
somethingunusual says, "i mean who we are going to pick"
lacubrious23 says, "i mean biograpical"
lacubrious23 says, "sorry"
Vanem says, "no worries"
lacubrious23 asks, "ok any questions about neruda?"
lacubrious23 says, "let"s move on to the next peot"
Vanem says, "I agree that we should use similar approaches"
lacubrious23 asks, "who is doing borges?"
Vanem says, "no I think I got a lot of info on him at home"
somethingunusual says, "i will"
Vanem says, "k"
somethingunusual says, "however is till dont know that much about him"
lacubrious23 says, "the first step would be to go to poemhunter>com and look at some of his other poems"
lacubrious23 says, "same goes for neruda"
somethingunusual says, "alright"
lacubrious23 says, "then you look at his life and how that might have affected what he says in him poems"
somethingunusual says, "ah i see"
lacubrious23 asks, "is this helping?"
Vanem says, "you could go and read what is in the book and then just search the net for Borges"
lacubrious23 says, "yea"
somethingunusual says, "well he hates realism"
lacubrious23 says, "yea< so you could talk about not onl what realism is< but why he didn"t like it"
Vanem says, "that is a good idea"
somethingunusual says, "sounds good"
somethingunusual says, "im gonna go to that website now"
Vanem asks, "what about Sor Juana?"
Vanem asks, "do you know much about her?"
lacubrious23 asks, "does anyone speak spanish? or take it in high school?"
lacubrious23 says, "sor juana was this crazy nun who didn"t like men very much"
somethingunusual says, "haha"
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Vanem holds up a big sign: | http://nobelprize.org/literature/laureates/ |
| 1971/neruda-bio.html |
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somethingunusual says, "im sure her poems are pretty interesting then"
Vanem says, "this is a good sight for Neruda"
lacubrious23 says, "she wrote this poem called "you men" in which she rants about the inequalities between men and women"
somethingunusual says, "say how long ago did she write"
lacubrious23 says, "in the sixteen hundreds"
Mon Oct 11 10:44:11 2004 PDT
lacubrious23 asks, "why can"t i type numbers?"
lacubrious23 says, "thing chat things is weird"
somethingunusual says, "ya its all screwed up"
lacubrious23 says, "ok moving on"
lacubrious23 asks, "who is doing octavio paz?"
somethingunusual says, "..."
Vanem says, "no se"
lacubrious23 says, "haha""
somethingunusual says, "who hasnt gone"
Vanem says, "no se"
lacubrious23 says, "there is only one person who doesn"t have apoet"
somethingunusual asks, "papertiger?"
lacubrious23 says, "so who ever doesn"t have one you are doing paz"
lacubrious23 says, "let usall talk about paz"
lacubrious23 asks, "was hethe one who"s house fell down on him?"
somethingunusual says, "paz was really poor as a kid"
somethingunusual says, "what? thats horrible"
Vanem says, "i don't know much about paz"
lacubrious23 says, "i just looked at some of his stuff and i think a formalist approach would work really well"
lacubrious23 says, "the only problem may be that we"re gonna have to work with the spanish version as well"
somethingunusual says, "..."
somethingunusual says, "ya but it would kill lots of time"
lacubrious23 says, "haha"
Vanem says, "why spanish version"
somethingunusual asks, "cause it has to do with language...doesnt it?"
lacubrious23 says, "because it was orignally wirtten in spanish"
Vanem says, "yeah but do you speak spanish"
lacubrious23 says, "yea< and you lose some of the original intent when it is translated"
somethingunusual says, "i can word it..."
Vanem says, "we would work with the translation"
lacubrious23 says, "no but i took it in high school"
lacubrious23 says, "haha"
somethingunusual says, "ya me 2"
somethingunusual asks, "wheres the other guy?"
Vanem says, "i took it in high school too but "
Vanem says, ".. i don't know it"
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Vanem holds up a big sign: | http://www.poemhunter.com/p/m/poem.asp?poet |
| =6638&poem=181863 |
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somethingunusual says, "how do u do that\"
Vanem says, "type bs then space and the internet address"
Landen's*Mom has arrived.
Leonard has arrived.
lacubrious23 says, "it says poem not found"
Landen's*Mom teleports out.
Leonard teleports out.
Vanem says, "poem hunter says that those who read paz generally like to read neruda as well"
somethingunusual says, "wait...was our paragraph that we wrote suppose to be about latin american poems"
Mon Oct 11 10:54:31 2004 PDT
Vanem says, "which? from the sign"
somethingunusual says, "no, the papragraph we are writing"
lacubrious23 asks, "what paragraph?"
somethingunusual says, "the essay"
somethingunusual says, "i mean"
lacubrious23 says, "oh< yea"
lacubrious23 says, "i wish this thing would let me use commas"
somethingunusual says, "i thought it was about war poems"
lacubrious23 says, "i think that is a different essay"
lacubrious23 says, "she told us not to worry aboutthe latin american essay yet"
somethingunusual says, "oh ok, i was talking about the one due soon"
somethingunusual says, "in a week or so"
lacubrious23 says, "that is the war one i believe"
Vanem says, "the essay that is due today 1st draft is about war poetry"
lacubrious23 says, "i think we are doing a workshop with it after the break"
somethingunusual says, "ya ok good"
Vanem says, "yep"
lacubrious23 says, "i think that it is important for each of us to have read all the stuff one each other"poets< so when whe decide to use another poem not in the book or biographical info not in the book we should email that to each other"
lacubrious23 asks, "no?"
somethingunusual says, "i agree"
lacubrious23 says, "this way during the presentation if someone get"s lost< someone else can help"
somethingunusual says, "thats a good idea...i like that"
Vanem says, "yeah i like that"
Mon Oct 11 11:10:30 2004 PDT
Vanem flattens out into a largish 32 cent postage stamp and floats away.
somethingunusual asks, "what?"
lacubrious23 says, "make sure you guys email this to yourselves"
somethingunusual asks, "hwo udo that?"
lacubrious23 says, "type @ sendlog"
lacubrious23 says, "but no space between the @"
somethingunusual says, "thanks"
Mon Oct 11 11:26:20 2004 PDT
somethingunusual says, "@sendlog"
lacubrious23 says, "no quotes though"
somethingunusual says, "ya that was by accident"
Mon Oct 11 11:41:11 2004 PDT
A largish 32 cent postage stamp floats into the room and fattens up into Vanem.
Logging is turned off by Vanem.
Mon Oct 11 11:41:46 2004 PDT